The TOCS Election poll [Archive] - Terminal Overclockers Forum

pumpman

3rd May 2005, 00:22

i went for other as the SNP are not listed my local Lib Dems candidate looks like a wurthers original advert too many pics of him looking soulfully at things not voting labour as our local dood is a tosser met him and dont rate him tories no so SNP it is
Tony is not getting my vote this time

Skaa

3rd May 2005, 00:46

Guess we're the 'others' then Pumpman ;)

Jimmyboy

3rd May 2005, 01:07

im still swaying tories but the lib dims doo have a few good things i agree with...

still tempted to go with the green party though :D

craig

3rd May 2005, 01:12

Voted already, so voted in that there poll...

Huskey

3rd May 2005, 09:19

Goin' Lib Dems myself :)

sara

3rd May 2005, 09:51

Lib Dems here too.

In my constituency back home I know a lot of the candidates personally - one Lib-Dem councillor is the father of a good friend, and this year's Lib-Dem parliamentary candidate went to school with me!

Youngest would-be MP in TV spotlight

By Staff reporter

HARPENDEN’S Liberal Democrat candidate Hannah Hedges appeared on television this week as the youngest person to stand for election in the country, Miss Hedges, 21, was shown on Channel 5 outside 10 Downing Street, alongside the two youngest Labour and Conservative parliamentary candidates – both 22.

Anyone younger than 21 cannot stand as a candidate.

The interview – filmed last week – was screened as part of a news feature to get youngsters interested in politics. Each candidate was asked why they got involved in politics, why should young people be interested in politics and what their respective party would do for young people if elected.

Miss Hedges said: “The Liberal Democrats want to give young people their voice back, a voice which hasn’t really been heard since the 60s. I want to show young people that politics can work for them.

“It was my first time in Downing Street, I hope the first of many.”

11:23am Thursday 7th April 2005

Trog

3rd May 2005, 13:53

No option for none of those wasters.

Silent Ben

3rd May 2005, 17:41

Lib dem baby :D

Huskey

3rd May 2005, 18:08

One of my mates has an official monster raving loony t-shirt :slayer:

Conan

3rd May 2005, 20:16

Still not decided yet tbh. Traditionally a Labour voter but Blair has pissed me off so much over the last 2/3 years I don't feel I can vote for him.

BroadbandPlacey

3rd May 2005, 20:34

im still 50/50 split labour/lib dem

when i make up my mind ill vote in this one too

Twigman

3rd May 2005, 21:41

Lib Dem...
loving the polls automatic colours :)

BroadbandPlacey

3rd May 2005, 22:06

LOL twig i hadnt noticed!!! your right tho :)

Twigman

3rd May 2005, 23:10

of course im right :p

BroadbandPlacey

5th May 2005, 11:36

well if our tocs poll is correct we will be waking up to our new leader - charles kennedy

just voted myself.... and i gave "tony blair a bloody nose"

David

5th May 2005, 12:01

I'd quite like to keep low inflation and low unemployment.
I remember 15% inflation and 3 million on the dole *shudders*

BroadbandPlacey

5th May 2005, 12:04

Annemarie

5th May 2005, 12:14

i have a confession - i still couldnt decide between labour and lib dems - both have good and bad policies and i was really struggling - so i tossed a coin for it :O

heads was labour, tails was lib dem, that 50p landed on the tails - my cross went in the lib dem box :hehe:

Thats really funny, what a good way to decide. Shame he won't be our leader tomorrow we will have Blair still unless ...

Jimmyboy

5th May 2005, 19:40

unless howard gets in :D

BroadbandPlacey

5th May 2005, 21:28

not a chance jimmy - not a chance

if howard gets in i'll emigrate at the end of my teaching degree... he'll ruin this country like the many conservative govt before him

Jimmyboy

5th May 2005, 23:21

well, labour havent done much better imo,

and the lib dims would be a disaster

BroadbandPlacey

6th May 2005, 00:02

how has labout been a disaster!!!

low unemployment - low inflation = stable economy

we as a country are generally prosperous - depending on who you listen too crime is either stable or down we have more police officers - more teachers - more doctors and nurses - hospital waiting times are down

they've had to sort out the mess the previous conservative govt left by underfunding the public sector for year after year

Annemarie

6th May 2005, 08:16

Good morning to Tony Blair.

Lib Dems were doing so well in single consituencies having gains of 10% but the system we use means that becasue they did not have a majority they only made an extra 12 seats. But on the way to becoming the opposition.

*Delly*

6th May 2005, 16:51

I`ve just found out that my best pal voted tory! I`m gutted. In fact I feel like goin next door and headbutting her and i`m not joking either!! :(

BroadbandPlacey

6th May 2005, 16:57

Slamdog

6th May 2005, 17:40

I never got a chance to vote....

Jimmyboy

6th May 2005, 19:35

my entire family voted tory!!!!!

and if you asked em they would tell you they voted cos labour cant control immigration, wtf? we live in a town with 99% anglo british white!!! they will never see an immigrant but yet they list it as one of the issues?

u fool placey, the reason they voted on that note is that they felt that if labour let immigration carry on the way it was, soon enough their town would be full of immigrants aswell....

David

6th May 2005, 22:11

Or maybe they're just morons that don't know the difference between immigrants, assylum seekers and economic migrants.

BroadbandPlacey

6th May 2005, 22:26

Or maybe they're just morons that don't know the difference between immigrants, assylum seekers and economic migrants.

WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!

Jimmyboy

7th May 2005, 19:11

:slap: :slap: :slap:

shelley

7th May 2005, 19:35

At least with Labour you know what your getting, i didn't vote, couldn't be arsed tbh but Tony Blair has done a bloody good job imo, and i'm sure he will continue to do so

:)

*Delly*

7th May 2005, 19:37

WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!

I`m with you and David on this one!! Can`t fookin stand ignorance and bigotry I can`t!!

In fact I dunno why the BNP and tories don`t just join forces...racist twats the lot of em!! :mad1:

*Delly*

7th May 2005, 19:40

I agree to an extent Shelley. I don`t think he`s done that bad a job and normally I would have voted for him, but I didn`t agree with going to war with iraq and thats why I couldn`t vote labour this time round. ;)

I didn`t vote at all for the first time in my life.

Jimmyboy

7th May 2005, 19:46

I`m with you and David on this one!! Can`t fookin stand ignorance and bigotry I can`t!!

In fact I dunno why the BNP and tories don`t just join forces...racist twats the lot of em!! :mad1:

i dont understand where the conservatives and racism comes from, is it just from immigration control or did i miss something completly??

BroadbandPlacey

7th May 2005, 19:50

yeah, just as you shouldnt believe everything you read, you equally shouldnt believe everything that comes out of politicians arses (mouths depending on your POV!)

"its not racist to talk about immigration" (in freaky transelvanian voice)

but IT IS racist, Mr Howard, to bread fear and resentment in the country by portraying immigration and immigrants as something to be scared off.

shelley

7th May 2005, 20:00

People resent immigrants because they come over here, get given benefits, houses free medical care and now they are having trouble controlling the truckloads of people that arrive each day, how many are entitled to free dental treatment when there are millions of people in this country who can't even get registered with a dentist, If they want to come over and gets jobs to help contribute to the country fine! but being given houses and being entitled to the same benefits as Brit born tax paying citizens is why i think people resent them

There is a difference between racism and resentment

Immigration laws and policies need to be reviewed, and controlling methods in place

:)

*Delly*

7th May 2005, 20:00

Don`t be fooled by the blue rinse brigade Jimmi. Too many have this stupid idea that we as brits are a peg above anyone from anywhere else. They did their share of letting in people not native to this country as well, but they don`t brag about that too much. They played the race card during this election campaign and that makes me sick to the pit of my stomach. What makes me even more sick is the fact that so many people agree with the venom they spew. I`m getting ashamed at the level of intolerance in my own country. I only thank god that my two boys have been brought up to not pre judge anyone no matter what their colour or religion.

I`m sorry if what I said earlier seems a little harsh, tis just my opion. I make wax effigies of Maggie Thatcher still to this day which I duly stick pins into. I just can`t stand what they stand for and i`ll never forgive them for letting people believe that it was ok to just look after number one. They set in motion a whole different mind set that taught people to not care about anyone only themselves and we are still reaping the effects of that and will do for a hell of a long time.

*Delly*

7th May 2005, 20:08

Immigration laws and policies need to be reviewed, and controlling methods in place

:)

They do indeed. Because if they aren`t reviewed then this country of ours will errupt into a place of violence because of it. I have no problem with someone genuinely fleeing persecution asking for asylum. I do have a problem with all these migrant scroungers coming here as it just breeds contempt. And then as a result people who do work and contribute to our society and have been here for donkeys years end up being tarred with the same brush.

Twigman

7th May 2005, 20:14

i didn't vote, couldn't be arsed tbh
No offense, but thats the kind of attitude that I hate. It hardly involves *that* much effort. And as you didnt bother voting obviously you dont care *that* much about the issues that affect everyone of us.

Sorry, but this kind of thing annoys me :(

shelley

7th May 2005, 20:55

No offense, but thats the kind of attitude that I hate. It hardly involves *that* much effort. And as you didnt bother voting obviously you dont care *that* much about the issues that affect everyone of us.

Sorry, but this kind of thing annoys me :(

Why does it annoy you? voting isn't compulsory, whether i choose to vote or not is my business, i'm certainly not the only one who didn't, maybe i don't really care! maybe i care more about more important things to hand, so what why let it bother you

Huskey

7th May 2005, 21:08

At least with Labour you know what your getting

Meh, if they actually kept their promises, like not introducing top up fees ;)

BroadbandPlacey

7th May 2005, 21:20

abstaining from voting is fine by me... it means i have a bigger say in what happens in this country. if everyone voted my vote would be worth 39% less than it is now

David

8th May 2005, 08:07

Genuine asylum seekers are from countries that the UN says is in breach of Human Rights as regards persecution for "political beliefs". Despite what some of the tabloids would like us to think, the number of people seeking asylum is falling, not rising and it has been for the last few years.

Asylum seekers are not the same as immigrants. The reason people called the Tory's policy "racist" is because Michael Howard said that there could be a repeat of the 2001 race riots if people feel that immigration is out of control.

I don't know if anyone has been paying attention to the figures but we are heading towards an economic disaster in 10 to 20 years. Our low birth rate and longer life expectancy means that soon there won't be enough people of working age paying taxes to cover the costs of healthcare, education, pensions, benefits etc. We simply won't have enough people of working age here. Unless we can increase immigration pretty damn quick we are fucked.

Twigman

8th May 2005, 13:44

Tony Blair has done a bloody good job imo, and i'm sure he will continue to do so
Maybe you should vote to continue your support for him then?
But then again...
maybe i don't really care!
So your first point doesnt count then...

Sorry dont really want to pick on you in particular, but did you see those BBC ads? The ones trying to encourage people to vote? If you dont bother voting you can't complain about anything because you were not even willing to try and change it.
Mind you if everything is absolutely perfect in your life and there is nothing that could be improved in your area, then Im coming to live with you!

shelley

8th May 2005, 14:07

Maybe you should vote to continue your support for him then?
But then again...

So your first point doesnt count then...

Sorry dont really want to pick on you in particular, but did you see those BBC ads? The ones trying to encourage people to vote? If you dont bother voting you can't complain about anything because you were not even willing to try and change it.
Mind you if everything is absolutely perfect in your life and there is nothing that could be improved in your area, then Im coming to live with you!

Twigman, i really can't see your point of having digs at me! havent you got anything else better to do with your time than to worry about what i said/didn't say! whether i voted or not ? like i said before whatever i do is my business regardless of whether you like it or not!

Lol at the quotes, i was replying to someone else in one quote ( my opinion i am still allowed those even though i didn't vote right! ) and responding to you in another, not that i need to explain myself to you

Are you really that bored that you get up the arse over pointless things with people ?

As far as i'm concerned that's the end of it, please go find someone else to pick on

Twigman

8th May 2005, 16:24

No that was my point...its not just you I am picking on...hence
Sorry dont really want to pick on you in particular
It applies to all the people that just "Couldnt be bothered" to vote. NOt just you, hence I didnt want it to appear like that. Obviously it did, and im sorry.

my opinion i am still allowed those even though i didn't vote right!
Yes of course :)

Are you really that bored that you get up the arse over pointless things with people ?
But thats my whole point! Its not pointless at all! This will affect every single one of us! Whether we like it or not! I think its very important really!
I am quite suprised that no one else appears to agree with me on this.

Ah well. I wont add anything else to this conversation.
I hope there are no hard feelings :)

David

8th May 2005, 16:51

There have been times I found it almost impossible to vote when some of my personal values and beliefs were shared in part by all the 3 major politcal parties. That's when I had to list the issues that were important to me and give each one a value of 1 to 10. The party that got the most points from my list got my vote.

shelley

8th May 2005, 17:15

It applies to all the people that just "Couldnt be bothered" to vote. NOt just you, hence I didnt want it to appear like that. Obviously it did, and im sorry.

Then why did you quote me then ? why not post a general thing against people who didn't vote ? :(

There was others who posted in this thread that didn't vote! don't see you getting up the arse with them :(

The way i see it, you were having a go at me, you wouldn't of quoted me if you weren't :(

BroadbandPlacey

8th May 2005, 17:31

But thats my whole point! Its not pointless at all! This will affect every single one of us! Whether we like it or not! I think its very important really!
I am quite suprised that no one else appears to agree with me on this.

i do agree with you, voting is VERY important

BUT there are many reasons why ppl dont vote

- if you couldnt decide between the party's - by not voting your giving them equal value (if that makes sense)
- slam couldnt vote cos he was in hospital as im sure happened to many thousands of others.
- if you hated the party's equally and didnt want to support any of them.
- too busy (i do find that one a bit of a cop out but if you were generally too busy to vote then fairy snuff)
- i believe homeless ppl cant vote as the have no fixed address

... there are many reasons but the general "i cant be arsed" to walk the 1/2 mile to the polling station to put a cross in a box does get up my nose!!!

shelley

8th May 2005, 17:42

abstaining from voting is fine by me... it means i have a bigger say in what happens in this country. if everyone voted my vote would be worth 39% less than it is now

i do agree with you, voting is VERY important,there are many reasons but the general "i cant be arsed" to walk the 1/2 mile to the polling station to put a cross in a box does get up my nose!!!

i'm confoozed :confused:

Which quote applies then?